You can apply "oil" based polyurethane over "oil" based enamel, you can also apply "water" based polyurethane over "water" based enamel, never mix the two, there's to much of a chance for problems. So I got out that General Finishes satin top coat (this is the one I used) and brushed the polyurethane on over the paint… and it totally transformed the finish on those chairs. My experience has been just the opposite. I have been following you long enough to KNOW you would go back and spray your cabinets and doors!! It does not have the “binding agent”. My mom says that even as a very small child, I was very independent, and if someone tried to help me with something, I would say, “Me do it meself!” To this day, if my mom offers to help me with something, and I decline, she says, “I know, I know…me do it meself, right?” So I don’t know that I can offer any solutions for you. I found this post on Pinterest while trying to figure out how to get the Minwax Water-based poly to stay smooth after sanding where I can’t see where I’ve sanded. 2. add topcoat But will it polish? Well, I much prefer a true satin or matte finish, but having gone through this before, I knew exactly what I needed to do. Painting a car makes it look new again. You may find a lot more paint options, and automotive finishes are usually pretty durable(and good lookin' too). As much of a pain the prep work is, I”m so glad you changed your mind and decided to spray the cabinets. I have no idea what the inside of those cabinets is coated with, but nothing sticks to it. I purchased the general finishes Satin topcoat.. now I’m thinking I should’ve went with flat.. Can you tell me how much difference there is between the two? Ahh that makes sense. Minwax Polycrylic is junk, in my humble opinion. They do this to prevent people from just buying four sample quarts instead of the pricier gallon of real paint. Furthermore, polyurethane application is a very simple procedure that virtually any household handyman is capable of tackling—provided, of course, that they're armed with the proper set of tools and a helpful set of instructions. I am wondering what i did wrong. What a project! And since this is my last time painting my kitchen cabinets for many years, they deserve the nicest sprayed finish I can give them. For best results enamel paint should be allowed to dry for three to seven days before applying the finish. Polyurethane can be oil- or water-based, and you can use either kind over latex paint; however, oil-based polyurethane tends to yellow as it ages, whereas water-based varieties stay transparent. I have Acrylic clear and poly clear lacquer available for about $6. Enamels have solvents that need to outgas during the curing process which can take a couple of days to a week depending on the thickness of the paint to completely cure. How did the general finish poly adhear to the BM advance paint? Why can it not be used? But the easiest way to remove that shiny top coat of lacquer or varnish is to rough it up with some sandpaper. No. It’s the alternative to a line of products that rhymes with Fannie Moane. After the paint has completely cured, a thin coat of polyurethane should be applied with a dense paintbrush or foam pad. So, since I used my new favorite polyurethane over the paint on my cabinet doors, naturally I’ll be using it on my cabinets, too. Hopefully someone with your similar personality trait (i.e., someone who naturally hates to work alone) and who has found some solutions will read your comment and give you some pointers. they have more than the typical colors for glow in the dark. It's one of my least favorite tasks in any DIY project. How long did you let the last coat of Advance paint dry before applying the General Finishes top coat? I'm a DIY fanatic remodeling my way through our 1948 fixer upper.More About Kristi. I ended up having to sand that veneer stuff off almost completely before priming with oil-based paint and then painting in order to get it to stick. I found I preferred tung oil, and I DID try that on paint, it worked well. I don’t know what kind of paint they use for their samples, but I was disappointed because it didn’t seem like the finish would be easy to clean. Sorry for all the questions Kristi. Grease stains, dirt, dried mud, and any sort of other filth needs to be washed off … It's like $3.99, but I am not sure weather this will work with car paint because car paint is sometimes poly. Especially if you just painted with a latex-based Enamel product, you CAN’T apply any “Polyurethane” or “Polycrylic” base product until the paint is FULLY CURE. Lightly sand the paint (wipe off) Note, however, that enamel paint bears no similarities with the enamel of molten glass, as there is no glass content in this kind of paint. I actually ordered a quart of satin last year when I was having so much trouble with that one table I refinished/painted over and over. Sample size is only to check out a color and give to kids for art projects ! Just think of it as another reason to take a break!! I’m about to do my cabinets.. Applying polyurethane over a painted surface will give it an impeccably smooth finish. I have been told it takes about 2 weeks for the Advance to fully cure. I’ve never had even a hint of yellow with General Finishes. If your car needs a new coat of paint you will have to have the car prepped. So I decided to try a brand that many of you have recommended to me over the last year — General Finishes High Performance Water-Based Top Coat in a flat finish. It really is amazing paint, and it’s pretty pricey. Why did it take me two days to do a one-day job? Wipe On Poly Over Paint Product Details. Let me back up a little bit and tell you how I got here…. But I did it. If you go too thin, the sheen won’t be consistent. Polyurethane is typically hard, durable and glossy, and it is these qualities that make a finish vulnerable to chips and flaking. Yes, that’s right. Because I absolutely hate doing it!! It felt like a really porous matte finish that would be scuffed and stained easily, which isn’t quite what I needed on dining chairs. Did you have any issues after with cabinets sticking? Well, from what I have learned is that "enamel" is used sometimes to just mean gloss paint that has a look of enameled materials, which is totally different type of surface. LOL, tea, Sunchips, Fig Newtons, podcasts . Looks beautiful. I am just starting my kitchen cabinets at the cottage. I needed to just put a clear water-based polyurethane over the paint. Have you heard anything about it??? I have never used general finishes for a topcoat! You seem to thrive on working alone. The advice on car paint is good, I know they have matching lines and a wide choice at most cities, our small store can most likely get the stuff if not already have it. Just about any paint can be sprayed over another if done properly. It’s General Finishes High Performance Top Coat and it is WONDERFUL! I’m too much of a perfectionist to deal with others’ mistakes that I feel I have to go back and fix, so I kind of thrive on doing things myself without any help from others, if at all possible. That’s a sprayed finish. For starters let me introduce the actual product to you guys. Poly is pretty thin on its own, so you shouldn’t need to thin it to spray it. I have just hand painted a bicycle and I want to protect the painting so I can ride it. I’m sorry but I had to laugh when you said (twice) “I don’t plan to paint my cabinets again for a long time.”, I love General Finishes. The curing process takes at least 20 days but can be 30 days or more for Latex paint (depending on condition). Unfortunately, the lowest sheen it comes in is satin. That was the true test because I brushed the General Finishes polyurethane on the top of the table. What about art supply places? (About $65/gallon.) Way to go Kristi! I have used this topcoat on my refinished highly used kitchen table. I will be using the same sprayer for the clear coat. I am, by nature, very independent and find it a bother if I have to work with other people or on a team. I’m sticking with the brass. One thing that's going to be extremely hard to answer here is what local stores in your area carry what. So this time, I’m just going to spray them, let it dry, and then wipe down the insides and it’ll come right off. If I wait longer than that I have to wait 16-24 hours and then sand. I know that acrylic and lacquer do not play nice with each other. Here's how to successfully paint over polyurethane or other finished wood! Maybe the difference is you know how to paint. But, I certainly enjoy watching you with your DIY professional projects!) It dries too fast for brushing, and it doesn’t self-level when rolling with one of those small rollers, so you’re either left with a finish with drag marks and uneven sheen from brushing, or a bumpy finish from rolling. you sound like me working on taxes! Urethane paint can be applied with low-pressure, high-volume spray guns, while acrylic enamel can only be applied with high-pressure spray guns. I can’t verify that is true, but worth noting. . I used Benjamin Moore Advance, which is really high-quality paint developed specifically for cabinets. can you use polyurethane on metal? I can get ply in a can and tint it then use my small airbrush to paint it, but this may require thinner and one more thing to screw up. I also know that I can dye or pigment the paint, but where can I get pigment that will work other than online or catalog? I’m literally holding the top coat in my hand while I’m completely frozen trying to figure out what to do next (I don’t want to mess this up!) In most of the cases, you can apply Polyurethane over enamel paint. Is tint that is used in house paint usable? I have only used urethane to 'clear coat' bare or tinted wood, never tried it on paint. Can’t wait to see your finished product. Enamel traditionally refers to oil-based paint which dries very hard and will not rewet. If I cant clear over oil base enamel such as these paints, do automotive paints work to swirl? I had a heck of a time painting the insides of those four glass-front cabinets. So now I can fix the mistakes in my cabinets that the Minwax junk made on them. Con: Mixing Clear Coat With Enamel Car Paint. However, for the best results, ensure that you use a water based formula such as Minwax; otherwise, you will have your surface starting to yellow a little sooner. 3. sand again (and wipe off) The primer color matters more when using acrylic enamel because it does not reliably cover the primer completely. And I also got the rest of the sanding done, which means that this morning I’ll be ready to paint right from the start. I heard once from a Sherwin Williams employee that paint used through a sprayer will take on a glossier finish than if it is brushed or rolled. Also My Kitchen Cabinets I am going to be painting in the Sherwin Williams West highland or Benjamin Moore Dove White. It’s going to look professional. That doesn’t mean that painting with a brush is wrong, by any means. A polyurethane finish prevents other materials from adhering to its surface. If I had the energy to do what you do, I’d be the same way. That is quite the prep project. But so do art paints, can these be clear coated with acrylic clear? I have used the Advance paint on my last project. As soon as I started spraying, the force of the air from my sprayer blew the tape and plastic off. . I so agree with you on the time it takes to prep everything if you are going to spray but it is worth it in the end. I’m telling you, this is my new favorite clear coat finish. It is a good idea to check with the manufacturer of the enamel car paint you plan to use to make sure it can accept clear coat. . I’ve heard that you should wait until the paint cures but with the advance, that is 30 days! Good luck with your sprayer today and I’m looking forward to seeing the finished cabinets in a day or so. And since this is my last time painting my kitchen cabinets for many years, they deserve the nicest sprayed finish I can give them. I need to know before I decide what paints to use. Oil paints take a lot of time to dry. I should have placed bets on you changing your mind about the spray painting!! It dries way to fast, does not self-level, and has ruined more than one project of mine, so that wasn’t even an option. Brushing will produce a glossier finish. If acrylics, which can dry in an hour or less, are applied over uncured enamels they can seal in the solvents of the enamel. It’s a topcoat, so it’s made to go over other finishes. I didn’t cover the ceiling. I don't want to spend the only $20 I have and end up with a crappy paint job and spending the next $20 I get on fixing it. © 1995-2019 Harmony Central, Inc. All rights reserved. My favorite saying……..” If you don’t have time to do it right the first time…when will you find the time to fix it?” You continue to inspire me everyday! It is quicker for Oil-based paint (5 to 10 days). Check out this gorgeous finish…. But that quart of satin finish came in handy when I refinished my dining chairs. Therefore, you can purchase epoxy enamels, polyurethane enamels, and most frequently, alkyd and/or acrylic enamels. How many coats of the General finishes did you apply? Did you ever have a yellow tint come through the top coat after the advance ( with the general finish flat). Did you cover the ceiling too? And now two days later, my kitchen looks like this…. But since my ceiling needs painting anyway, I don’t mind of some of the teal gets on the ceiling. Depends why you want to apply the poly over the enamel. I am sure the rustoleum spray paint is oil based. 4. add final topcoat. I use masking tape and taped it around the top of the tile on the walls. But I have also used oil base primers and latex but I have used on bare wood or even painted wood that has been prepared. Well, I like a job done right. Click here to see how I get a near-flawless finish with a brush. But I’ve already sprayed the doors, and they have the most beautiful finish on them. This is a wipe on poly top coat with a matte finish that claimed to be non yellowing from the brand Fusion Mineral Paint. And wondering, “How can Kristi be OK with that?” Guess she can’t! Some people choose polyurethane over spray paint, polycrylic, or other finishers because it has a more durable finish that does not chip or cracks over time. Hoping for a more level coverage! Any other suggestions. Oil based polyurethane will amber the paint, so use either water based polyurethane, or acrylic lacquer over your latex paint. Thank you, That blue looks beautiful and smooth. Smart choice! I haven’t tried it yet, but am hoping it is more truly flat for one of my projects. Polyurethane finishes dry into a tough, clear, lustrous finish. I did it in the color greyhound by Benjamin Moore. Polyurethane originally was an oil-based varnish with more plasticity than older varnishes or paints. And speaking of finishes, this time around has been a repeat of the last time I painted my cabinets. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. lol. I like to use a Purdy brush. It dries hard, cleans easily, etc. So it could be latex for interior enamel or something like acrylic for exterior. So I sprayed just enough on each coat so that the sheen was consistent, and then let it dry, sanded it lightly,and sprayed again. Now how did you hang the sheeting? Polyurethane can be used over enamel paint, which often provides a harder finish than latex-based paints. Wash the surface. I love the softness of the look. Excellent! I did that last time, and it was such a pain and a huge waste of time. If the car has had the mileage clocked then this would also be more apparent. I always told my (numerous) kids, “Good enough, isn’t!”. I generally love high contrast, but the black just seems too harsh to me. And I worked hard to get those doors as close to perfect as I could, starting with hours of grain filling and sanding. Sanding. So far I`m thinking Testors, but I also have some Tremclad mixed to the colours that I like and it worked well on some test pieces. When a car is painted with acrylic enamel, a clear coat is applied over the paint. I will try it Now! Did I miss it or have you chosen brass vs. black hardware? Click here for more info on the paint sprayer I use, A Green Refrigerator Wall Of Cabinets (Plus, I’m Redoing My Kitchen Floor…Again), My (re)Painted Kitchen Floor — Striped Floor Version 2.0. I sanded those chairs and painted them with a sample size of Sherwin Williams paint that I had on hand. I highly recommend it. Copyright 2007-2019 - Kristi Linauer, LLC. It still has a sheen to it, and in my mind, it’s not really flat. That’s where Minwax Polycrylic fails me every time — when using it on large flat surfaces. Will Polyurethane or Acrylic clear over enamel? They are compatible. It is absolutely going to be fabulous I’m sure!! They also have clear lacquer in the same line and it is for exterior to, which makes me think it is not latex. . Just make sure the Enamel paint has completely cured before you begin to apply Polyurethane. If I started with the satin and absolutely hate it could i do my second (and maybe 3rd) coat in flat to dull it down? Actually, I commented on it a few days ago. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170114227189&ssPageName=MERC_VI_RCRX_Pr4_PcY_BID_Stores_IT&refitem=170114227097&itemcount=4&refwidgetloc=active_view_item&usedrule1=CrossSell_LogicX&refwidgettype=cross_promot_widget. So, since I used my new favorite polyurethane over the paint on my cabinet doors, naturally I’ll be using it on my cabinets, too. I just never took the time to do it. Oh and when I read that you were brushing it on- I wondered what that was about. I can’t guarantee your results, but on my own kitchen cabinets, I waited about 24 hours before topcoating. Water-based polyurethanes don’t yellow like oil-based poly does. I am anxiously waiting to see the finished project. When a painter uses the word "enamel" he is usually referring to a high gloss, smooth, decorative alkyd and/or acrylic top coat. Now the finish feels so silky smooth, and it’s very durable and easy to clean. It’s amazing stuff! The delema I have is, I don't want to use just black and/or white although a zack wilde bullseye paint job may be cool to do. The clear coat of urethane supplies the acrylic enamel paint with a buffer between the paint and the elements. Its available in my area in an unfinished furniture store so you might also check a place like that if you haven’t already done so. I’d call that satin, but it’s absolutely gorgeous. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170114227189&ssPageName=MERC_VI_RCRX_Pr4_PcY_BID_Stores_IT&refitem=170114227097&itemcount=4&refwidgetloc=active_view_item&usedrule1=CrossSell_LogicX&refwidgettype=cross_promot_widget. Benjamin moore advance, Coventry gray. I just ordered the General Finishes to get a more even coverage on my new-to-me, freshly painted and distressed dining room table. . Be careful of some of those poly's in a can, like the Minwax, etc. And rolling is somewhere in between. They still look perfect a year later. I’ll be painting it as soon as I’m finished with the cabinets. You ’ re sticking with the General finishes for a topcoat, so i don ’ t that. Go-To ” all purpose finisher only have black and white color `` ''. Ordered mine on Amazon it to spray finishes depending on condition ) to get those doors as close to finished. 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